Let Me Think–Absolutely!

Let Me Think–Absolutely!

In our study yesterday here with the Bismarck Bible Study Group, we discussed the importance of thinking in harmony with “it is written”. But we also emphasized the importance of LIVING in harmony with “it is written”, for Jesus will not say, “Well thought, thou good and faithful servant…”, but “Well DONE…” I want to hear those words, don’t you? Amen! We pray this presentation will bless you to that end.

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  1. Danna, please be working toward an environment that has “a better recording environment.” To my impaired hearing, it sounds like there is an amount of echo that makes it “not quite optimal” for my hearing. Of course, the ideal would be a well-sound-insulated recording environment, AND having each participant who is speaking, to use a microphone. Perhaps your CDs turn out better since they probably are direct-to-the-recording-device, or they MAY also be picking up the sounds just as they are heard in the room… MAYBE it is possible to achieve a better recording with a better microphone. Although for all I know, you may already BE USING a “better mic”… ANYway, thanks for your ministry.

    1. Thank you for your thoughts, Brother Irvin. I commiserate with the hearing loss, as you know. We opted, for the first time, to try the meeting w/o our sound system. As we learned yesterday, not a good thing. Even though I was speaking fairly loud, the camera was at a distance, and it was a live recording. We will strive to improve and appreciate your feed back! Blessings to you and Ms. Julie!

  2. “? Is you are dead with Christ to the rudimentary means of salvation of the world, why, as though living in the world, are you letting yourselves be subject to these kinds of ordinances,
    (Touch not; taste not; handle not;) Which all are to perish with the using, after the commandments and doctrines of men?”

    Col. 2:20-22

    1. Brother Lindensmith, we appreciate that you are watching our videos. There are at least two responses to your most recent comment. While you give no personal input as to what you intend to communicate by this passage, a careful study of it supports what we are teaching in the “Let Me Think” series.

  3. I did a scripture search on the EGW cd rom on Col 2:20-22, it gave me a little better understanding of what was the meaning of these texts and these are the quotes that came up. It helped me to understand these scriptures a little better 🙂 It was mostly on reforms and temperance. thought I’d share.

    Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 10:32, 33. {TDG 139.1}

    How is it? Are we confessing Christ in our daily life? Do we confess Him in our dress, adorning ourselves with plain and modest apparel? Is our adorning that of the meek and quiet spirit which is of so great price in the sight of God? Are we seeking to advance the cause of the Master? Is the line of demarcation between you and the world distinct, or are you seeking to follow the fashions of this degenerate age? Is there no difference between you and the worldling? Does the same spirit work in you that works in the children of disobedience? {TDG 139.2}
    If we are Christians, we shall follow Christ, even though the path in which we are to walk cuts right across our natural inclinations. There is no use in telling you that you must not wear this or that, for if the love of these vain things is in your heart, your laying off your adornments will only be like cutting the foliage off a tree. The inclinations of the natural heart would again assert themselves. You must have a conscience of your own. {TDG 139.3}
    O, did we remember that Christ became poor, that we through His poverty might become rich, would we not seek to honor His name, and advance His cause? We are to abide in Him as the branch abides in the vine. Jesus says, “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. . . . Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples” (John 15:5-8). {TDG 139.4}
    If we fulfilled this command of our Lord, there would be a different state of affairs in our churches, and we should know what it is to have the deep movings of the Spirit of God. What we want is to have the ax laid at the root of the tree. We want to be dead to the world, dead to self, and alive unto God. Our life must be his with Christ in God, that when He shall appear, we also may appear with Him in glory. We need to come close to Christ, that men may know that we have been with Christ and learned of Him. . . . Keep your eye fixed upon Christ. With humility of mind seek for a nearness to God. In words, in conduct, in life, confess Christ.–Review and Herald, May 10, 1892. {TDG 139.5}

    As a people we profess to be reformers, to be light bearers in the world, to be faithful sentinels for God, guarding every avenue whereby Satan could come in with his temptations to pervert the appetite. Our example and influence must be a power on the side of reform. We must abstain from any practice which will blunt the conscience or encourage temptation. We must open no door that will give Satan access to the mind of one human being formed in the image of God. If all would be vigilant and faithful in guarding the little openings made by the moderate use of the so-called harmless wine and cider, the highway to drunkenness would be closed up. What is needed in every community is firm purpose, and a will to touch not, taste not, handle not; then the temperance reformation will be strong, permanent, and thorough. {5T 360.1}

    An Important Place in Our Salvation.–Those who are not health reformers treat themselves unfairly and unwisely. By the indulgence of appetite they do themselves fearful injury. Some may think that the question of diet is not important enough to be included in the question of religion. But such make a great mistake. God’s word declares, “Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.” The subject of temperance, in all its bearings, has an important place in the working out of our salvation.– Evangelism, page 265. {Te 162.6}
    If men and women perseveringly live in accordance with the laws of life and of health, they will realize the blessed results of an entire health reform.–Signs of the Times, Jan. 6, 1876. {Te 163.1}
    All Are Being Proved.–It is of great importance that individually we act well our part, and have an intelligent understanding of what we should eat and drink, and how we should live to preserve health. All are being proved to see whether they will accept the principles of health reform or follow a course of self-indulgence.–Counsels on Diet and Foods, page 34. {Te 163.2}

    I am so thankful for the Bible and the SOP

  4. Thank you Julie, I enjoy the bible and SOP also. Here is what the SDA commentaries say on these verses:

    20. If ye be dead with Christ. Literally, “if you died with Christ” (see on Rom. 6:5–8).
    Rudiments of the world. Here Paul is using the expression with special reference to the philosophy of the false teachers at Colossae (see on v. 8). In a more general way the “rudiments of the world” may be understood as the elementary things upon which the world depends for its life, the ABC of its structure. “World” is placed in contrast with heaven, and means the age in which we live, with its drives and interests. A man who is alive to the world, who is living according to the ways of the world and its philosophy, is dead to the things of God. The opposite is equally true: He who is “dead with Christ” and now lives by the principles of the kingdom of heaven, has turned his back forever upon the basic rudiments of this world, and is alive unto God.
    Why, as though living. In substance Paul asks the Colossians: “Why, having relinquished false philosophy and the ambitions and fundamentals of this world through having died with Christ, are you living as though still bound by these things?”
    Are ye subject to ordinances? Literally, “are you continuing to submit yourselves to decrees?” such as the obsolete ordinances of Judaism (see on v. 16). There may be a reference also to ascetic restrictions and decrees derived from cult sources. The false philosophy at Colossae contained both Judaic and pagan elements (see p. 184). “Now,” Paul says, “why, since you are not obliged to keep these ordinances, are you still concerned with them?”
    21. Touch not. Or, “handle not.” The Mosaic ritual was full of prohibitions against touching leprosy, unclean issues, dead bodies, and other unhallowed things (Lev. 12–15; Num. 19:11–22). The lesson taught by these prohibitions was that the true follower of God would keep himself clean and pure from every contamination, moral and physical, that he might glorify his God. The false teachers probably added other taboos.
    Taste not. The reference is doubtless to various dietary restrictions largely man made (see v. 8), such as those mentioned in 1 Tim. 4:3–5. See on Col. 2:16 for evidence that Paul is not removing restriction from the use of foods hygienically unclean. The false teachers at Colossae probably urged many taboos in the matter of diet.
    Handle not. Or, “touch not.” The Greek verb is practically synonymous with that translated “touch” in this verse. Some commentators suggest the first should be translated “handle” and the last “touch.” The reference is to the various taboos the false teachers urged upon the Colossian Christians, some Judaic in origin and others drawn from Eastern philosophies.
    22. All are to perish. That is, the things prohibited all perish. They are thus temporary in nature and of no lasting spiritual or moral value.
    Of men. The decrees and taboos of the false teachers, even though to some extent similar to the requirements of the Jewish ceremonial system, were all only human requirements. God did not impose these upon men. The death of Christ had put an end to the ceremonial law, and what was beyond this God had never required.

    It is clear that these verses are dealing with the Jews who wanted to continue holding on to the old ceremonial system which had been done away with. This does not effect the law of God, but the rituals imposed by the Jewish leaders. One quote from SOP also connected with these verses is found in 3t 561.

    Satan comes to man, as he came to Christ, with his overpowering temptations to indulge appetite. He well knows his power to overcome man upon this point. He overcame Adam and Eve in Eden upon appetite, and they lost their blissful home. What accumulated misery and crime have filled our world in consequence of the fall of Adam. Entire cities have been blotted from the face of the earth because of the debasing crimes and revolting iniquity that made them a blot upon the universe. Indulgence of appetite was the foundation of all their sins. Through appetite, Satan controlled the mind and being. Thousands who might have lived, have prematurely passed into their graves, physical, mental, and moral wrecks. They had good powers, but they sacrificed all to indulgence of appetite, which led them to lay the reins upon the neck of lust. Our world is a vast hospital. Vicious habits are increasing. {3T 561.3}

  5. Thank you Kalon for the addition to these comments from the BC, this has been a real good study. And Thanks to Brother Lindensmith for opening this up, otherwise I would not have looked into it more. I have learned even more than what Danna has shared with us in this presentation!! God bless you all!!!

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