Restoration: The Lamb That Dies, part 1

Restoration: The Lamb That Dies, part 1

These days there is a huge amount of debate as to whether Jesus took our sinful, fallen nature, or whether He had a different nature than we do.   Actually, this is not a new debate within the Seventh-day Adventist church, or other churches for that matter.   But, particularly for Adventists, this is a “hot button”.   We want to share what we believe is the truth based on “it is written”.  We pray this study will be a blessing to many.
“Christ’s overcoming and obedience is that of a true human being. In our conclusions, we make many mistakes because of our erroneous views of the human nature of our Lord. When we give to His human nature a power that it is not possible for man to have in his conflicts with Satan, we destroy the completeness of His humanity. His imputed grace and power He gives to all who receive Him by faith.” 7BC 929.5

7 thoughts on “Restoration: The Lamb That Dies, part 1

  1. This study has helped me to answer a long time question that I have had. How could Jesus have remained sinless from His birth throughout His childhood to the age of accountability? I have struggled with this for some time and praise God, He has used you to help me have the answer to this question. I am still in awe of all that I have learned here.
    I would love to obtain the handout to this study. Thanks Danna, so much for sharing. May God continue to bless you and show you great and wondrous things out of His law!!!

    1. Greetings Francois,
      Good question. Here is what I believe is the Biblical answer: Romans 8:5-14. “For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace. Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
      Paul here starts out with a statement about “the flesh”, and without skipping a beat, in the next verse, says, “For to be carnally minded….” This is a clear analogy between the “flesh” and the “carnal mind”. Then, further in this passage, he talks about the deeds of the flesh, or body, so Paul is again linking the carnal mind with the flesh, and goes on to describe the outcome of one who lives “after the flesh”-he will die. Gal 5:16-25 is a clear description of the difference between the deeds of the spirit and the deeds of the flesh. Combining these two passages we can come to the following conclusions:
      1) the carnal mind WILL yield to the fleshly lusts
      2) the mind of the Spirit WILL NOT yield to the fleshly lusts
      3) we are either under the control of the Spirit or of carnal mind, there is no middle ground. We either “mind” or obey the flesh and its desires, or we “mind” or obey the Spirit.
      The carnal mind longs to fulfill it’s desires, the fleshly desires. But when the mind is converted and under the control of the Holy Spirit, the flesh no longer rules. The bottom line is that the carnal mind is the fallen natures we are born with–and all that it pulls and prods us from within and without to do unless we allow the Holy Spirit to control us. We can be thankful for Philippians 2:5!
      I hope this answers your question, but if it doesn’t please feel free to contact me!
      God bless,
      Danna G.

  2. are you saying that the carnal mind is with you always . but you can have control over by submitting to the Holy Spirit.
    I though we lose it a the new birth , maybe it is the same
    I have no problem I do have a better understanding now after watching your talk
    Happy Sabbath

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